Planning & Design Meetings 5/11/2011 - Minutes
FSC Meeting
Palo Alto High School
12 May 2011
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PALO ALTO HIGH SCHOOL
Palo Alto Unified School District
FACILITIES STEERING COMMITTEE MEETING
DATE: 11 May 2011, 3:30 – 5:00 pm
SUBJECT: Palo Alto HS Facilities Steering Committee
ATTENDEES: Sign-in sheet (attached)
The following are the highlights of the meeting:
1. Introductions:
Phil Winston (PW) and Tom Hodges (TH) welcomed the committee and initiated the
meeting. Introductions were made around the table and room for the benefit of Dr.
Kevin Skelly (SK) who was attending the meeting to discuss the status of the
Performing Arts Center (PAC).
2. Performing Arts Center:
TH opened the discussion by pointing out that the PAC was originally removed from
this afternoon’s agenda. However, TH shared that KS’s participation today is to bring
another perspective to the ongoing PAC discussion regarding the appropriate size of
the facility. It’s a follow up to similar discussions held at the PAC subcommittee
meeting on 5/5/11. Since many were not part of the PAC subcommittee meeting, TH
gave a brief history:
• 600 seat facility was taken to BOE for information
• 600 seat facility was over budget due to program creep and was pulled before
BOE schematic design approval
• 600 seat facility was reduced in area and other value engineering opportunities
were explored to reduce cost
• 466 seat option was generated which had all of the features of the 600 seat
facility except the second level and balcony seating.
• 466 seat option was presented by the PAC subcommittee to the FSC as their
recommendation which the FSC voted unanimously to support and recommend
to the BOE.
• As a result of higher level conversations, it was suggested that the seating
capacity was too small
• Other options were explored based on the above conversations
• Having met their program needs and the budget, the PAC subcommittee
reconfirms their recommendation of the 466 seat option.
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3. KS described his role and interaction with the BOE and how he relies on the
expertise of the site and those participating in the process. He noted the important
role that the FSC plays in bringing the expertise of the site together to make key
decisions and recommendations to the BOE. KS believes that a “bottom up’
approach is much better than a “top down” approach in connecting with the
community. The community relies on the BOE oversight as a reality check for the
“bottom up” recommendations. KS further added that it’s very important to avoid
putting the BOE and site in opposition over differing opinions that will not serve the
BOE well. The BOE needs to be included in the why we are here and the how did
we get here thought process.
KS suggest the following considerations need further thought:
• Last BOE presentation was a 600 seat facility with balcony
• Subsequently six schemes have been explored ranging in seating capacity from
466 to 600 (the BOE is currently interested in approximately 550).
• Can the group convince the BOE?
• The group will be fighting early enthusiasm exhibited for the 600 seat facility
• Need for the classroom within the PAC given other options on campus such as
the Haymarket
• Are the desired program elements what will serve the school best long range?
• Is the orchestra pit required and how often will it be used?
• Comparison to the Gunn Theater
The following discussions occurred:
• Stephen Pond (SP) added that he’s satisfied with the 466 seat option as a
recommendation as it is within budget and meets the PAC department needs.
However, it may not meet the BOE needs. He shared that other options to
accommodate large numbers were discussed by this group and the FSC such
as a future gym or acoustically updating the existing gym.
• Michael Najar (MN) offered to initiate any conversation necessary with the BOE
and asked KS if this was appropriate. KS replied that it is acceptable to contact
the BOE directly. MN further responded to KS’s comment about the initial
enthusiasm for the 600 seat scheme offering that if was the “no apology
building” part that the enthusiasm was for and not the seating capacity. On the
topic of the Haymarket Theater, MN noted that he has been at Paly for over
eight years and has seen two modernization efforts at the Haymarket that had
less than desirable results. Lastly, MN noted that the way that performing art
students judge their performance is not by a letter grade but by playing to a full
house. Conversely, performing to a non-full house is not a good feeling.
Success is performing to a standing room only audience. He added that a major
fundraising effort was going to be challenging. KS agreed that fundraising was
not the best option.
• KS wanted to understand the classroom portion need. He asked if the
Haymarket can serve that need. Holly Ward (HW) shared that from her
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discussions with Kathleen Wood (KW), the need for adjacency was very
important to the program providing direct access to costumes, props, lighting,
and supervision. It would also serve as a break out space for smaller groups to
practice while others are on stage. KW’s preferred scenario would be to always
have access to the stage for practice.
• Anne Anderson (AA) offered that from a non-theater perspective, but from a
Master Plan project list and dollar allocation perspective, she was never
convinced of the reasons for a larger more costly facility.
• PK added that the group looked at options to accommodate a large capacity
such as fixing the acoustics at the gym and using a hi-tech approach by having
the presentation simulcast on large screen monitors which, for example, could
happen next door at the new Media Arts Center.
• HW felt that from her conversations with some of the BOE members, the BOE
uncertainty was more a matter of having questions answered rather than a
specific seating capacity.
• TH asked if this should be brought back to the BOE as an informational item and
asked if we needed a community meeting first. KS suggested that the BOE
meeting would serve as the community/public input meeting.
• KS asked Erwin Lee (EL) what his opinion was on the seating capacity. EL
responded that he was fine designing for either capacity but went on to say that
there are currently far more high school theaters being built in the 400-500 seat
capacity than there are in the 600-700 seat capacity.
• SP added why would we want to duplicate the capacity of the Haymarket
(approximately 520 plus) in the new facility?
• KS felt that the best arguments to the BOE for the smaller facility were the use
of simulcast, the Haymarket can accommodate a class, and facilities currently
being built are in the smaller range.
A brief discussion was held on what BOE meeting date would be best to present
this information. TH suggested the 14 June meeting. The date was not
determined.
4. Boiler Replacement Project:
TH informed the FSC that the current boilers need to be replaced sooner than
planned, and that a project is in progress which will replace the two boilers and
associated piping at the Tower and Haymarket Buildings. This project was one of
the first phase projects for the Tower Building to address the issue of heat. The
estimated allocation from the Tower Building budget for this work is approximately
$800,000. TH asked the FSC if there were any objections to moving forward with
this project. The FSC had no objections.
5. Construction Updates:
AL gave an update on the Media Arts and Classroom Building indicating that the
documents have been approved by the DSA and will be out to bid on May 20th. For
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the Athletic Stadium Improvements, she noted that the two projects have been
submitted to DSA.
• SP asked if a logistic plan had been generated for the construction. AL
indicated that Gilbane was working on a plan and that it would be shared with all
before being finalized. SP was concerned that construction deliveries would
conflict with school arrival and operations.
6. Group 2b Projects:
TH advised the FSC that they would like to start work on the group 2b project which
includes the Library Renovation and the Weight/Fitness Building and will ask DLM
for a proposal to begin start up tasks.
• TH indicated that the Library will be programmed together with the Tower
building to determine if other uses can be incorporated into the Library.
• TH also mentioned that the Weight/Fitness Building could be pushed back until
after the bids for the group 1 projects are known.
7. Mary Gordon (MG) request that a follow up meeting be held to discuss the
landscape portion of the Media Arts and Classroom building. Members of the
landscape committee had met with Heidi Rank (HR) to finalize the plan but they had
not had a chance to review the final version. EL provided MG with drawings of
DLM’s interpretation of HR’s notes and drawings generated from her landscape
meeting. EL indicated that DLM will schedule a meeting with the landscape group
to review the plan before finalizing.
8. Churchill Project:
TH indicated that the Churchill landscape plan will be implemented and that it is a
multi-funded project. It will not impact the Paly project list.
Next Meetings:
To be determined
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First Floor 2nd Floor Basement Level
Original Scheme
600 seat theater with
balcony, 2 classrooms,
basement, orchestra pit, &
full y tower.
Initial Reduced Scheme
600 seat theater with
balcony, 1 classroom,
basement, orchestra pit,
& full y tower.
Reduced Scheme
466 seat theater with
1 classroom, basement,
orchestra pit, & full y tower.
Reduced Scheme
575 seat theater with
1 classroom, basement,
orchestra pit, & full y tower.
Reduced Scheme
575 seat theater
with basement,
orchestra pit, & full y tower.
Reduced Scheme
600 seat theater with
2nd oor balcony.
No classroom, no basement.
Scheme Options
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Palo Alto High School, May 5th, 2011
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